Trying to update with RCU files

Tue Mar 31 09:45:32 PDT 2009

The setup of Retro 8 is confusing, because the Console is the "natural"
context that the operator of Retro sees, but the "Engine" machine is
were Retro is "actually" running.  Retro Admins will have to get used
to looking at their networks, and Retro, from the point of view of
the machine running the Engine, despite the fact that the Console may be
running on one of the clients.

In the case where the Engine and Console are on the same machine, this is
the same point of view, which will probably end up being yet another
source of confusion.

In my opinion, the remote management is a big improvement.  It's a
feature that Dantz has touted, and with good reason.  The downside
is the added confusion in usage because it adds complexity that was 
not there previously.

-dgl-

>Actually, if you have the Engine and the Console on different computers,
>then you actually need to install the Client on the Console computer to
>see it's disks.
>
>Robin 
>
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>[mailto:retro-talk-bounces at list.dantz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Friedman
>Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:34 AM
>To: EMC Retro-Talk
>Subject: Re: Trying to update with RCU files
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>You should not install the client on a machine that is actually doing  
>backups of its local drives. That's the issue here.
>
>
>
>On Mar 31, 2009, at 5:02 AM, Henry M. Seiden wrote:
>
>> I think I read the instructions on Retro 8, that a client must be  
>> installed for each machine requiring back up. That would include the  
>> local machine, right?
>>
>> Otherwise the locally attached drives are not seen. That is the  
>> problem I saw until installing a client on the local machine.
>>
>> Henry
>> On Mar 30, 2009, at 23:10 , Mike Friedman wrote:
>>
>>> That seems rather backwards to me, but that's fine. As long as it's  
>>> consistent, which I don't think it is. The machine running the  
>>> engine for sure cannot see its own boot drive. I just checked a  
>>> third time.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 30, 2009, at 8:05 PM, mayoff_robin at emc.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> The console can only see disks on the computer running the engine.  
>>>> The console alone has no access to disks on the console computer.
>>>>
>>>> -Robin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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><retro-talk-bounces at list.dantz.com 
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>>>> To: EMC Retro-Talk <retro-talk at list.dantz.com>
>>>> Sent: Mon Mar 30 22:55:16 2009
>>>> Subject: Re: Trying to update with RCU files
>>>>
>>>> Strangely, if I use a client to do this (i.e. the machine not  
>>>> running
>>>> the engine) then it works. It reports the wrong amount of free space
>>>> on the boot drive of the server, but it does allow me to browse. On
>>>> the server running the engine, I cannot do this.
>>>>
>>>> You should be able to browse drives local to the machine running the
>>>> front end, since it's just a file/open dialog, right?
>>>>
>>>> And seriously, these Java dialog boxes are really terrible looking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 30, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Mike Friedman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No, I'm not. It's not showing me the disk that the machine that is
>>>>> running the engine boots from.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2009, at 7:33 PM, mayoff_robin at emc.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It should be showing all disks local to the engine computer. Are
>>>>>> you not seeing this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Robin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
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><retro-talk-bounces at list.dantz.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> To: EMC Retro-Talk <retro-talk at list.dantz.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Mon Mar 30 22:25:18 2009
>>>>>> Subject: Trying to update with RCU files
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just tried to update a client with an RCU file and when I  
>>>>>> click on
>>>>>> Update the only options for the location of the file are on the
>>>>>> backup
>>>>>> drives. That seems really strange.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any idea why this would be so?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frankly, some of the ugly obviously Java based dialog boxes  
>>>>>> could use
>>>>>> some polish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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